The 830 has been in my gaming/home PC and the 850 has been in an Intel NUC.

Can I underclock a Ryzen 2700X to 3.0 GHz and expect it to dissipate 65W like the 2700, or will it dissipate the same heat anyway? Will the XFR/Precision Boost get disabled if I underclock it? (I want the 65W tdp cpu but the cooler in 2700X seems better at a few extra dollars.)

Now with that Semi-Custom APU based Chinese console being the first generation console that makes use of Zen/Vega things will change. That new Console will have console games developers itching to get at Vega’s Rapid Packed Math and Explicit Primitive Shader/Other New Vega IP in order to eak every little bit of performance out of what Vega has to offer given the limited Vega nCU counts on that new semi-custom console APU, and consoles are limited on graphics/graphics hadrware upgrades more than in the PC space.

Even for XBONE/PS4 games Developers that may want to target any possible future MS/Sony Zen-Vega/Navi gaming console offeings so they are probably wanting to get ahold of that new Chinese Semi-Custom Zen/Vega APU to develop for that in hopes that they will be ahead once MS/Sony switch over to using Zen/Vega-Navi with the next generation consoles.

So Vega graphics will be targeted more once all of the x86 based cosnole market makes the switch fully over to using Zen/Vega or Zen/Navi. And Navi will probably have all of Vega’s features and more in order to be backwards compatable with Vega based Console/PC games. That Semi-Custom Chinese Console, if it becomes popular, will probable force MS/Sony to accelerate the introduction of their next generation offerings in order to have Vega’s Rapid Packed Math, or even Explicit Primitive Shaders if that IP can offer an advantage for console gaming.

The Zen/Vega Console gaming arms race has just started and it looks like there will even be PC’s for the Chinese/Maybe World markets based on that same Semi-Custom AMD APU.

The majority of PC games developers/games companies appear content to just let the GPU makers provide ever more powerful GPU hardware instead of the PC games developers/games companies having to spend money on optimizing their PC gaming Titles for PC gaming hardware. Hardware is cheaper than software development costs over the long run for PC games whereas for Consoles the hardware update cycle in longer. And the PC games developers are not paying for the hardware anyways that cost is on the PC’s user.

The Console makers make more from their closed ecosystem services fees and game sales percentages than the hardware sales anyways so they can afford to spend more to optimize games for their consoles’ hardware. Zen/Vega, or Navi, once it’s used across XBONE/Next Generation and PS#/Next Generation in addition to that Chinese Zen/Vega Semi-Custom console APU will get Vega graphics some serious attention and that will probably make for better gaming on PCs also over the next 5 years if any console gaming optimizations can port over for PC gaming on discrete Vega/Navi GPUs.

Nvidia’s billions will probably keep most of the discrete Laptop/PC gaming market but AMD’s Vega graphics ships inside of every AMD Mobile/Desktop based Raven Ridge Zen/Vega Graphics based SKU. So like Intel’s graphics Vega Graphics will be making inoads even if the Raven Ridge based PC/Laptop makes use of discrete Nvidia offerings. Vega’s installed base via Raven Ridge based Laptops/PCs will continue to get larger, look at Intel’s graphics installed base on PC/Laptop devices and that’s the largest number out there currently.